OSLC Product working group
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Gray Bachelor
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Meeting location: https://meet.jit.si/oslc-op
Welcome to the next meeting of the OSLC Product working group
The next meeting will include more vendor perspectives – we would particularly like to hear from OEMs about their needs and experience – if you can do that please let Gray know and we start to schedule this important aspect of the subject
Topics
1) Roll call 2) Feedback on ALM-PLM experience < Robert Baillargeon of Sodius Willert 3) Additional perspectives on representing PLM resource using OSLC < Patrick Ollerton, PTC 4) Discussion 5) Next steps a. OEM input would be very welcome 6) Next meeting dates a. Can we meet again in December ? b. When to restart in January ? 7) Any other business
Comments or idea ? – contact Gray Bachelor of IBM or Patrick Ollerton of PTC or post to the oslc-op community
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Ollerton, Patrick
We covered a few areas quickly today when discussing Windchill PLM, I agree we need more time to review.
Here is the content for reference
Regards, Patrick
-----Original Appointment----- From: Gray Bachelor <gray_bachelor@...>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 12:02 PM To: Gray Bachelor; oslc-op@...; Ollerton, Patrick; Eran Gery; Robert Baillargeon Subject: OSLC Product working group When: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 2:00 PM-3:00 PM (UTC+00:00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Where:
email from: gray_bachelor@...
Meeting location: https://meet.jit.si/oslc-op
Welcome to the next meeting of the OSLC Product working group
The next meeting will include more vendor perspectives – we would particularly like to hear from OEMs about their needs and experience – if you can do that please let Gray know and we start to schedule this important aspect of the subject
Topics
Comments or idea ? – contact Gray Bachelor of IBM or Patrick Ollerton of PTC or post to the oslc-op community Unless otherwise stated above: |
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One difference I think we might describe between the PTC approach to versioning and OSLC Configuration Management is that in the PTC Part Master/Part Version model, the part is central, and its version (and its effectivity date) are part of the identity of the part from the perspective of where it can be used. This model fits well when parts come from different suppliers and part versions are part of the selection and usage process.
OSLC Configuration Management puts the configuration of multiple parts in the center – the Configuration Context identifier identifies a usage context for multiple related parts which are only identified by their Context URI 9i.e., part id, not part version). The Configuration Context selects the proper version, not the individual parts.
This may be a difference worth exploring, especially in the context of complex supply chains and systems of systems that include hardware and software.
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ZjQcmQRYFpfptBannerEnd We covered a few areas quickly today when discussing Windchill PLM, I agree we need more time to review.
Here is the content for reference
Regards, Patrick
-----Original Appointment----- From: Gray Bachelor <gray_bachelor@...>
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2022 12:02 PM To: Gray Bachelor; oslc-op@...; Ollerton, Patrick; Eran Gery; Robert Baillargeon Subject: OSLC Product working group When: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 2:00 PM-3:00 PM (UTC+00:00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London. Where:
email from: gray_bachelor@...
Meeting location: https://meet.jit.si/oslc-op
Welcome to the next meeting of the OSLC Product working group
The next meeting will include more vendor perspectives – we would particularly like to hear from OEMs about their needs and experience – if you can do that please let Gray know and we start to schedule this important aspect of the subject
Topics
Comments or idea ? – contact Gray Bachelor of IBM or Patrick Ollerton of PTC or post to the oslc-op community Unless otherwise stated above: |
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Robert Baillargeon
Thanks Patrick. The discussion is helpful. Discussing
the nuances of versioning and configuration within Product space would be illuminating. Thanks for diving into the details.
It would also be great to get the perspective on link target version resolution, as we have seen some unique patterns. That would be very useful as we discuss the behavior that users expect both within a PLM configuration and the relationships to external configurations.
How and why we compose these configurations across the enterprise will be valuable, and I suspect users such as Jim Gammon will help vet the patterns and constraints.
Thanks
Robert
Chief Product Officer – Linked Data 418 N. Main Street 2nd Floor/Suite 200, Royal
Oak, Michigan 48067, USA
Try out our Jira and Confluence OSLC Tools on the Atlassian Marketplace From: Ollerton, Patrick <pollerton@...>
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 12:27 PM To: Gray Bachelor <gray_bachelor@...>; oslc-op@... <oslc-op@...>; Eran Gery <eran.gery@...>; Robert Baillargeon <rbaillargeon@...>; Jolly, Tanupreet <tjolly@...> Subject: RE: OSLC Product working group We covered a few areas quickly today when discussing Windchill PLM, I agree we need more time to review.
Here is the content for reference
Regards, Patrick
-----Original Appointment-----
email from: gray_bachelor@...
Meeting location: https://meet.jit.si/oslc-op
Welcome to the next meeting of the OSLC Product working group
The next meeting will include more vendor perspectives – we would particularly like to hear from OEMs about their needs and experience – if you can do that please let Gray know and we start to schedule this important aspect of the subject
Topics
Comments or idea ? – contact Gray Bachelor of IBM or Patrick Ollerton of PTC or post to the oslc-op community Unless otherwise stated above: |
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Jad El-Khoury
Hi
A practical question (or wish): Can we aim for some regular meeting setup to increase chances of attendance? It also makes it easier to invite interested parties.
regards ______________________________ Jad El-khoury, PhD KTH Royal Institute of Technology School of Industrial Engineering and Management, Mechatronics Division Brinellvägen 83, SE-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden Phone: +46(0)8 790 6877 Mobile: +46(0)70 773 93 45
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On Behalf Of Robert Baillargeon
Sent: Wednesday, 7 December 2022 19:41 To: Ollerton, Patrick <pollerton@...>; Gray Bachelor <gray_bachelor@...>; oslc-op@...; Eran Gery <eran.gery@...>; Jolly, Tanupreet <tjolly@...>; James.E.Gammon@... Subject: Re: [oslc-op] OSLC Product working group
Thanks Patrick. The discussion is helpful. Discussing the nuances of versioning and configuration within Product space would be illuminating. Thanks for diving into the details.
It would also be great to get the perspective on link target version resolution, as we have seen some unique patterns. That would be very useful as we discuss the behavior that users expect both within a PLM configuration and the relationships to external configurations.
How and why we compose these configurations across the enterprise will be valuable, and I suspect users such as Jim Gammon will help vet the patterns and constraints.
Thanks Robert
Chief Product Officer – Linked Data 418 N. Main Street 2nd Floor/Suite 200, Royal Oak, Michigan 48067, USA
Try out our Jira and Confluence OSLC Tools on the Atlassian Marketplace From: Ollerton, Patrick <pollerton@...>
We covered a few areas quickly today when discussing Windchill PLM, I agree we need more time to review.
Here is the content for reference
Regards, Patrick
-----Original Appointment-----
email from: gray_bachelor@...
Meeting location: https://meet.jit.si/oslc-op
Welcome to the next meeting of the OSLC Product working group
The next meeting will include more vendor perspectives – we would particularly like to hear from OEMs about their needs and experience – if you can do that please let Gray know and we start to schedule this important aspect of the subject
Topics
Comments or idea ? – contact Gray Bachelor of IBM or Patrick Ollerton of PTC or post to the oslc-op community Unless otherwise stated above: |
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Gray Bachelor
email from: gray_bachelor@...
Meeting location: https://meet.jit.si/oslc-op
Welcome to the next meeting of the OSLC Product working group
Next meeting we’ll complete the PTC input and discussion
Then we’ll summarise the findings so far leading to a discussion on OEM perspectives and user needs
Topics
1) Roll call 2) Additional perspectives on representing PLM resource using OSLC < Patrick Ollerton, PTC 3) Discussion 4) Summarise findings so far 5) Schedule for meeting dates a. Frequency, day/time ? b. When to restart in January ? 6) Any other business
Comments or idea ? – contact Gray Bachelor of IBM or Patrick Ollerton of PTC or post to the oslc-op community
Gray will find a place to make materials and recordings available and notify the community.
Unless otherwise stated above:
IBM United Kingdom Limited Registered in England and Wales with number 741598 Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hants. PO6 3AU |
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Jim Gammon <james_e_gammon@...>
Agree.
Wednesdays work great for me. If we could slide :30 minutes later, it will remove the one conflict I have.
Regards, Dallas, TX 75243
From: Jad El-Khoury <jad@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 8, 2022 1:16 AM To: oslc-op@...; rbaillargeon@...; Ollerton, Patrick <pollerton@...>; Gray Bachelor <gray_bachelor@...>; Eran Gery <eran.gery@...>; Jolly, Tanupreet <tjolly@...>; James.E.Gammon@... Subject: [External] RE: [oslc-op] OSLC Product working group
Hi
A practical question (or wish): Can we aim for some regular meeting setup to increase chances of attendance? It also makes it easier to invite interested parties.
regards ______________________________ Jad El-khoury, PhD KTH Royal Institute of Technology School of Industrial Engineering and Management, Mechatronics Division Brinellvägen 83, SE-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden Phone: +46(0)8 790 6877 Mobile: +46(0)70 773 93 45
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On Behalf Of Robert Baillargeon
Thanks Patrick. The discussion is helpful. Discussing the nuances of versioning and configuration within Product space would be illuminating. Thanks for diving into the details.
It would also be great to get the perspective on link target version resolution, as we have seen some unique patterns. That would be very useful as we discuss the behavior that users expect both within a PLM configuration and the relationships to external configurations.
How and why we compose these configurations across the enterprise will be valuable, and I suspect users such as Jim Gammon will help vet the patterns and constraints.
Thanks Robert
Chief Product Officer – Linked Data 418 N. Main Street 2nd Floor/Suite 200, Royal Oak, Michigan 48067, USA
Try out our Jira and Confluence OSLC Tools on the Atlassian Marketplace From: Ollerton, Patrick <pollerton@...>
We covered a few areas quickly today when discussing Windchill PLM, I agree we need more time to review.
Here is the content for reference
Regards, Patrick
-----Original Appointment-----
email from: gray_bachelor@...
Meeting location: https://meet.jit.si/oslc-op
Welcome to the next meeting of the OSLC Product working group
The next meeting will include more vendor perspectives – we would particularly like to hear from OEMs about their needs and experience – if you can do that please let Gray know and we start to schedule this important aspect of the subject
Topics
Comments or idea ? – contact Gray Bachelor of IBM or Patrick Ollerton of PTC or post to the oslc-op community Unless otherwise stated above:
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