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Submitting the Quality Management Open Project Specification for public review

Andrii Berezovskyi
 

Thanks a lot, Chet!


I want to make sure I got this right, so let me make some comments and please correct me if I got this wrong in any way:


1) We are not submitting a spec for public review. Instead, OP maintainers are preparing to ask the PGB to approve a Project Specification Draft 04 (we will skip PSDs 1 to 3 for Core to avoid any confusion with the CSPRDs 1 to 3 published by the Core TC, I don't know how many CSPRDs were published by the Domains TC for the QM spec). The only approval required for this is from PGB, with 14 days notice. No approval from OASIS administrator is needed: https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/open-projects-process#project-specifications, §13.3 (not sure what does the term Designated Branch refers to).


2) We do not have to use OASIS infrastructure to publish a PSD or to produce PDFs. We are planning to make a PR with the changes to the document revision, status and links and tag it on Github with a tag 'psd-04', for example.


3) I suggest to have all comments on the PSDs to be submitted as Github issues.


4) The specification will not be provided under the Apache 2.0 license. Apache license is best suited for the source code. The text of the spec will be CC BY 4.0 licensed (Attribution 4.0 International). Vocabulary and OSLC Shape machine-readable documents will be provided under the Apache 2.0 license. Did I miss something?


Also, we had some discussion in the OP call regarding the naming of the specs and publishing of the PDFs. Chet, we are still working it out but I would appreaciate if you follow/participate in https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/issues/6.


/Andrew

From: Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@...>

Sent: 26 June 2019 23:51
To: Jim Amsden
Cc: Andrii Berezovskyi
Subject: Re: Submitting the Quality Management Open Project Specification for public review
 
Jim, Andrew, I'm spending the afternoon catching up on all this. Apologies for falling behind... 

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:00 PM Jim Amsden <jamsden@...> wrote:

1. Make sure the oslc-op@... mailing list is working so that we can collaborate appropriately.
Yes and that's done.  

2. Finalize the text for the Status section of the Open Project in ReSpec. I suggest the following content:
Yes, this section looks good.  

This document was last revised or approved by the OASIS OSLC Open Projecton the above date. The level of approval is also listed above. Check the “Latest version” location noted above for possible later revisions of this document.

Comments on this specification can be sent to the OSLC Open Project’s public comment list oslc-op@..., after subscribing to it by following the instructions in “Contributing” at https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md.
That sounds right. I'll look at the text in CONTRIB now and may make a suggestion via pull request.  

This specification is being provided under the Apache 2.0 License and Attribution 4.0 International.
Suggest linking these to the licenses. Apache 2.0 - https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 - CC-BY 4.0 -  https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode
 
Note that any machine-readable content (Computer Language Definitions) declared Normative for this Work Product is provided in separate plain text files. In the event of a discrepancy between any such plain text file and display content in the Work Product's prose narrative document(s), the content in the separate plain text file prevails.

3. The https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.mdsection does not describe the process for subscribing to the oslc-op mailing list - assuming that's what will be used for public review comments, and does not yet describe the feedback licensing terms. Is there a link we should include in the Status section that describes the feedback process and licensing implications? Something similar to https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=oslc-corebut for open projects?
Not yet. Let me sort that out.  

4. The content of the Notices section needs to be finalized. Here's what we currently have

Copyright © OASIS Open 20189. All Rights Reserved.

All capitalized terms in the following text have the meanings assigned to them in the OASIS Intellectual Property Rights Policy (the "OASIS IPR Policy"). The full Policy may be found at the OASIS website.

This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published, and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this section are included on all such copies and derivative works. However, this document itself may not be modified in any way, including by removing the copyright notice or references to OASIS, except as needed for the purpose of developing any document or deliverable produced by an OASIS Open Project (in which case the rules applicable to copyrights, as set forth in the OASIS IPR Policy, must be followed) or as required to translate it into languages other than English.

The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be revoked by OASIS or its successors or assigns.

This document and the information contained herein is provided on an "AS IS" basis and OASIS DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY OWNERSHIP RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

OASIS requests that any OASIS Party or any other party that believes it has patent claims that would necessarily be infringed by implementations of this OASIS Project Specification or OASIS Standard, to notify OASIS TCOpen Project (OP) Administrator and provide an indication of its willingness to grant patent licenses to such patent claims in a manner consistent with the IPR Mode licensing of the OASIS Open Project that produced this specification.

OASIS invites any party to contact the OASIS TC OP Administrator if it is aware of a claim of ownership of any patent claims that would necessarily be infringed by implementations of this specification by a patent holder that is not willing to provide a license to such patent claims in a manner consistent with the IPR Mode licensing of the OASIS Open Project that produced this specification. OASIS may include such claims on its website, but disclaims any obligation to do so.

OASIS takes no position regarding the validity or scope of any intellectual property or other rights that might be claimed to pertain to the implementation or use of the technology described in this document or the extent to which any license under such rights might or might not be available; neither does it represent that it has made any effort to identify any such rights. Information on OASIS' procedures with respect to rights in any document or deliverable produced by an OASIS Open Project can be found on the OASIS website. Copies of claims of rights made available for publication and any assurances of licenses to be made available, or the result of an attempt made to obtain a general license or permission for the use of such proprietary rights by implementers or users of this OASIS Project Specification or OASIS Standard, can be obtained from the OASIS TC OP Administrator. OASIS makes no representation that any information or list of intellectual property rights will at any time be complete, or that any claims in such list are, in fact, Essential Claims.

The name "OASIS" is a trademark of OASIS, the owner and developer of this specification, and should be used only to refer to the organization and its official outputs. OASIS welcomes reference to, and implementation and use of, specifications, while reserving the right to enforce its marks against misleading uses. Please see https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/trademark for above guidance.


5. Determine a process for publishing open project specifications on OASIS
  • Determine the URL pattern for the published specifications
Yes. Still TBD. 
  • Publish rendered specifications to OASIS
I'm not sure what you mean by 'publish' here. Hand them off to us to load and announce? 
I'm not sure of the import of this either. Are the resource shapes something different from the QM Spec?  

Anything else?

--
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
ELM Quality Manager
919-525-6575



--

/chet 
----------------
Chet Ensign
Chief Technical Community Steward
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
http://www.oasis-open.org

Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 

Chet Ensign
 

Slowly but surely, I am getting oriented to where we are and catching up... 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:48 PM Andrii Berezovskyi <andriib@...> wrote:

I want to make sure I got this right, so let me make some comments and please correct me if I got this wrong in any way:

1) We are not submitting a spec for public review.

The OP rules do not require that so yes, that is fine. 

Instead, OP maintainers are preparing to ask the PGB to approve a Project Specification Draft 04 (we will skip PSDs 1 to 3 for Core to avoid any confusion with the CSPRDs 1 to 3 published by the Core TC, I don't know how many CSPRDs were published by the Domains TC for the QM spec). The only approval required for this is from PGB, with 14 days notice.

Correct. And approving it as PSD04 is fine.  

No approval from OASIS administrator is needed: https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/open-projects-process#project-specifications, §13.3 (not sure what does the term Designated Branch refers to).

Right, no approval needed from us. By 'designated branch' we were trying to say, basically, you should approve a labeled branch that  people can get back to later if they want to review the evolution of the TC work product.  

2) We do not have to use OASIS infrastructure to publish a PSD or to produce PDFs. We are planning to make a PR with the changes to the document revision, status and links and tag it on Github with a tag 'psd-04', for example.

Correct. 


3) I suggest to have all comments on the PSDs to be submitted as Github issues.

That is certainly a good way to do it process-wise. But personally, I wouldn't rule out that you might get good comments via the email list.   

4) The specification will not be provided under the Apache 2.0 license. Apache license is best suited for the source code. The text of the spec will be CC BY 4.0 licensed (Attribution 4.0 International). Vocabulary and OSLC Shape machine-readable documents will be provided under the Apache 2.0 license. Did I miss something?

That is fine - your call.  


Also, we had some discussion in the OP call regarding the naming of the specs and publishing of the PDFs. Chet, we are still working it out but I would appreaciate if you follow/participate in https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/issues/6.

Yes, I have been working my way through the discussions. I definitely have some questions to discuss with you there. Will get those thoughts together today.  


/Andrew

From: Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@...>
Sent: 26 June 2019 23:51
To: Jim Amsden
Cc: Andrii Berezovskyi
Subject: Re: Submitting the Quality Management Open Project Specification for public review
 
Jim, Andrew, I'm spending the afternoon catching up on all this. Apologies for falling behind... 

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:00 PM Jim Amsden <jamsden@...> wrote:

1. Make sure the oslc-op@... mailing list is working so that we can collaborate appropriately.
Yes and that's done.  

2. Finalize the text for the Status section of the Open Project in ReSpec. I suggest the following content:
Yes, this section looks good.  

This document was last revised or approved by the OASIS OSLC Open Projecton the above date. The level of approval is also listed above. Check the “Latest version” location noted above for possible later revisions of this document.

Comments on this specification can be sent to the OSLC Open Project’s public comment list oslc-op@..., after subscribing to it by following the instructions in “Contributing” at https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md.
That sounds right. I'll look at the text in CONTRIB now and may make a suggestion via pull request.  

This specification is being provided under the Apache 2.0 License and Attribution 4.0 International.
Suggest linking these to the licenses. Apache 2.0 - https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 - CC-BY 4.0 -  https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode
 
Note that any machine-readable content (Computer Language Definitions) declared Normative for this Work Product is provided in separate plain text files. In the event of a discrepancy between any such plain text file and display content in the Work Product's prose narrative document(s), the content in the separate plain text file prevails.

3. The https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.mdsection does not describe the process for subscribing to the oslc-op mailing list - assuming that's what will be used for public review comments, and does not yet describe the feedback licensing terms. Is there a link we should include in the Status section that describes the feedback process and licensing implications? Something similar to https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=oslc-corebut for open projects?
Not yet. Let me sort that out.  

4. The content of the Notices section needs to be finalized. Here's what we currently have

Copyright © OASIS Open 20189. All Rights Reserved.

All capitalized terms in the following text have the meanings assigned to them in the OASIS Intellectual Property Rights Policy (the "OASIS IPR Policy"). The full Policy may be found at the OASIS website.

This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published, and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this section are included on all such copies and derivative works. However, this document itself may not be modified in any way, including by removing the copyright notice or references to OASIS, except as needed for the purpose of developing any document or deliverable produced by an OASIS Open Project (in which case the rules applicable to copyrights, as set forth in the OASIS IPR Policy, must be followed) or as required to translate it into languages other than English.

The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be revoked by OASIS or its successors or assigns.

This document and the information contained herein is provided on an "AS IS" basis and OASIS DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY OWNERSHIP RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

OASIS requests that any OASIS Party or any other party that believes it has patent claims that would necessarily be infringed by implementations of this OASIS Project Specification or OASIS Standard, to notify OASIS TCOpen Project (OP) Administrator and provide an indication of its willingness to grant patent licenses to such patent claims in a manner consistent with the IPR Mode licensing of the OASIS Open Project that produced this specification.

OASIS invites any party to contact the OASIS TC OP Administrator if it is aware of a claim of ownership of any patent claims that would necessarily be infringed by implementations of this specification by a patent holder that is not willing to provide a license to such patent claims in a manner consistent with the IPR Mode licensing of the OASIS Open Project that produced this specification. OASIS may include such claims on its website, but disclaims any obligation to do so.

OASIS takes no position regarding the validity or scope of any intellectual property or other rights that might be claimed to pertain to the implementation or use of the technology described in this document or the extent to which any license under such rights might or might not be available; neither does it represent that it has made any effort to identify any such rights. Information on OASIS' procedures with respect to rights in any document or deliverable produced by an OASIS Open Project can be found on the OASIS website. Copies of claims of rights made available for publication and any assurances of licenses to be made available, or the result of an attempt made to obtain a general license or permission for the use of such proprietary rights by implementers or users of this OASIS Project Specification or OASIS Standard, can be obtained from the OASIS TC OP Administrator. OASIS makes no representation that any information or list of intellectual property rights will at any time be complete, or that any claims in such list are, in fact, Essential Claims.

The name "OASIS" is a trademark of OASIS, the owner and developer of this specification, and should be used only to refer to the organization and its official outputs. OASIS welcomes reference to, and implementation and use of, specifications, while reserving the right to enforce its marks against misleading uses. Please see https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/trademark for above guidance.


5. Determine a process for publishing open project specifications on OASIS
  • Determine the URL pattern for the published specifications
Yes. Still TBD. 
  • Publish rendered specifications to OASIS
I'm not sure what you mean by 'publish' here. Hand them off to us to load and announce? 
I'm not sure of the import of this either. Are the resource shapes something different from the QM Spec?  

Anything else?

--
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
ELM Quality Manager
919-525-6575



--

/chet 
----------------
Chet Ensign
Chief Technical Community Steward
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
http://www.oasis-open.org

Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 


--

/chet 
----------------
Chet Ensign
Chief Technical Community Steward
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
http://www.oasis-open.org

Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 

Andrii Berezovskyi
 

Very much appreciated, Chet! Have a nice weekend!

--
/Andrew
(from phone)



On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 8:03 PM +0200, "Chet Ensign" <chet.ensign@...> wrote:

Slowly but surely, I am getting oriented to where we are and catching up... 

On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 5:48 PM Andrii Berezovskyi <andriib@...> wrote:

I want to make sure I got this right, so let me make some comments and please correct me if I got this wrong in any way:

1) We are not submitting a spec for public review.

The OP rules do not require that so yes, that is fine. 

Instead, OP maintainers are preparing to ask the PGB to approve a Project Specification Draft 04 (we will skip PSDs 1 to 3 for Core to avoid any confusion with the CSPRDs 1 to 3 published by the Core TC, I don't know how many CSPRDs were published by the Domains TC for the QM spec). The only approval required for this is from PGB, with 14 days notice.

Correct. And approving it as PSD04 is fine.  

No approval from OASIS administrator is needed: https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/open-projects-process#project-specifications, §13.3 (not sure what does the term Designated Branch refers to).

Right, no approval needed from us. By 'designated branch' we were trying to say, basically, you should approve a labeled branch that  people can get back to later if they want to review the evolution of the TC work product.  

2) We do not have to use OASIS infrastructure to publish a PSD or to produce PDFs. We are planning to make a PR with the changes to the document revision, status and links and tag it on Github with a tag 'psd-04', for example.

Correct. 


3) I suggest to have all comments on the PSDs to be submitted as Github issues.

That is certainly a good way to do it process-wise. But personally, I wouldn't rule out that you might get good comments via the email list.   

4) The specification will not be provided under the Apache 2.0 license. Apache license is best suited for the source code. The text of the spec will be CC BY 4.0 licensed (Attribution 4.0 International). Vocabulary and OSLC Shape machine-readable documents will be provided under the Apache 2.0 license. Did I miss something?

That is fine - your call.  


Also, we had some discussion in the OP call regarding the naming of the specs and publishing of the PDFs. Chet, we are still working it out but I would appreaciate if you follow/participate in https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/issues/6.

Yes, I have been working my way through the discussions. I definitely have some questions to discuss with you there. Will get those thoughts together today.  


/Andrew

From: Chet Ensign <chet.ensign@...>
Sent: 26 June 2019 23:51
To: Jim Amsden
Cc: Andrii Berezovskyi
Subject: Re: Submitting the Quality Management Open Project Specification for public review
 
Jim, Andrew, I'm spending the afternoon catching up on all this. Apologies for falling behind... 

On Mon, Jun 10, 2019 at 2:00 PM Jim Amsden <jamsden@...> wrote:

1. Make sure the oslc-op@... mailing list is working so that we can collaborate appropriately.
Yes and that's done.  

2. Finalize the text for the Status section of the Open Project in ReSpec. I suggest the following content:
Yes, this section looks good.  

This document was last revised or approved by the OASIS OSLC Open Projecton the above date. The level of approval is also listed above. Check the “Latest version” location noted above for possible later revisions of this document.

Comments on this specification can be sent to the OSLC Open Project’s public comment list oslc-op@..., after subscribing to it by following the instructions in “Contributing” at https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md.
That sounds right. I'll look at the text in CONTRIB now and may make a suggestion via pull request.  

This specification is being provided under the Apache 2.0 License and Attribution 4.0 International.
Suggest linking these to the licenses. Apache 2.0 - https://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0 - CC-BY 4.0 -  https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/4.0/legalcode
 
Note that any machine-readable content (Computer Language Definitions) declared Normative for this Work Product is provided in separate plain text files. In the event of a discrepancy between any such plain text file and display content in the Work Product's prose narrative document(s), the content in the separate plain text file prevails.

3. The https://github.com/oslc-op/oslc-admin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.mdsection does not describe the process for subscribing to the oslc-op mailing list - assuming that's what will be used for public review comments, and does not yet describe the feedback licensing terms. Is there a link we should include in the Status section that describes the feedback process and licensing implications? Something similar to https://www.oasis-open.org/committees/comments/index.php?wg_abbrev=oslc-corebut for open projects?
Not yet. Let me sort that out.  

4. The content of the Notices section needs to be finalized. Here's what we currently have

Copyright © OASIS Open 20189. All Rights Reserved.

All capitalized terms in the following text have the meanings assigned to them in the OASIS Intellectual Property Rights Policy (the "OASIS IPR Policy"). The full Policy may be found at the OASIS website.

This document and translations of it may be copied and furnished to others, and derivative works that comment on or otherwise explain it or assist in its implementation may be prepared, copied, published, and distributed, in whole or in part, without restriction of any kind, provided that the above copyright notice and this section are included on all such copies and derivative works. However, this document itself may not be modified in any way, including by removing the copyright notice or references to OASIS, except as needed for the purpose of developing any document or deliverable produced by an OASIS Open Project (in which case the rules applicable to copyrights, as set forth in the OASIS IPR Policy, must be followed) or as required to translate it into languages other than English.

The limited permissions granted above are perpetual and will not be revoked by OASIS or its successors or assigns.

This document and the information contained herein is provided on an "AS IS" basis and OASIS DISCLAIMS ALL WARRANTIES, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO ANY WARRANTY THAT THE USE OF THE INFORMATION HEREIN WILL NOT INFRINGE ANY OWNERSHIP RIGHTS OR ANY IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

OASIS requests that any OASIS Party or any other party that believes it has patent claims that would necessarily be infringed by implementations of this OASIS Project Specification or OASIS Standard, to notify OASIS TCOpen Project (OP) Administrator and provide an indication of its willingness to grant patent licenses to such patent claims in a manner consistent with the IPR Mode licensing of the OASIS Open Project that produced this specification.

OASIS invites any party to contact the OASIS TC OP Administrator if it is aware of a claim of ownership of any patent claims that would necessarily be infringed by implementations of this specification by a patent holder that is not willing to provide a license to such patent claims in a manner consistent with the IPR Mode licensing of the OASIS Open Project that produced this specification. OASIS may include such claims on its website, but disclaims any obligation to do so.

OASIS takes no position regarding the validity or scope of any intellectual property or other rights that might be claimed to pertain to the implementation or use of the technology described in this document or the extent to which any license under such rights might or might not be available; neither does it represent that it has made any effort to identify any such rights. Information on OASIS' procedures with respect to rights in any document or deliverable produced by an OASIS Open Project can be found on the OASIS website. Copies of claims of rights made available for publication and any assurances of licenses to be made available, or the result of an attempt made to obtain a general license or permission for the use of such proprietary rights by implementers or users of this OASIS Project Specification or OASIS Standard, can be obtained from the OASIS TC OP Administrator. OASIS makes no representation that any information or list of intellectual property rights will at any time be complete, or that any claims in such list are, in fact, Essential Claims.

The name "OASIS" is a trademark of OASIS, the owner and developer of this specification, and should be used only to refer to the organization and its official outputs. OASIS welcomes reference to, and implementation and use of, specifications, while reserving the right to enforce its marks against misleading uses. Please see https://www.oasis-open.org/policies-guidelines/trademark for above guidance.


5. Determine a process for publishing open project specifications on OASIS
  • Determine the URL pattern for the published specifications
Yes. Still TBD. 
  • Publish rendered specifications to OASIS
I'm not sure what you mean by 'publish' here. Hand them off to us to load and announce? 
I'm not sure of the import of this either. Are the resource shapes something different from the QM Spec?  

Anything else?

--
Jim Amsden, Senior Technical Staff Member
ELM Quality Manager
919-525-6575



--

/chet 
----------------
Chet Ensign
Chief Technical Community Steward
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
http://www.oasis-open.org

Mobile: +1 201-341-1393 


--

/chet 
----------------
Chet Ensign
Chief Technical Community Steward
OASIS: Advancing open standards for the information society
http://www.oasis-open.org

Mobile: +1 201-341-1393